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Re: Power supply

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:36 pm
by karoqkar
Have you a towbar fitted....you could wire fridge in boot from the towbar socket.??....OR
You could wire a voltage sensing relay same as you would be use to wire towbar/trailer socket for caravan fridge/power.
All could be wired to the plug that is plugged into the 12v socket in boot. The feed to this socket is direct feed from car battery so voltage varies from approx 12.5 volt engine not running to 13.5v - 14.5v with engine running. The sensing relay would sense this and switch power on to fridge only when car engine is running.
No need to alter any car wiring at all.... :D :D ;)

Re: Power supply

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:11 pm
by Routemaster1
karoqkar wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:36 pm Have you a towbar fitted....you could wire fridge in boot from the towbar socket.??....OR
You could wire a voltage sensing relay same as you would be use to wire towbar/trailer socket for caravan fridge/power.
All could be wired to the plug that is plugged into the 12v socket in boot. The feed to this socket is direct feed from car battery so voltage varies from approx 12.5 volt engine not running to 13.5v - 14.5v with engine running. The sensing relay would sense this and switch power on to fridge only when car engine is running.
No need to alter any car wiring at all.... :D :D ;)
I haven't got a towbar, in fact I haven't yet got the car. It will probably be 3 months before it's delivered. I rarely use the fridge, I'm just not particularly happy with the prospec of anything I happen to leave plugged in draining the battery.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:45 pm
by karoqkar
Yes, OK and the fridge will run the battery down quickly. On 12v power they are generally not thermostatically controlled.
So the switch will need to be automatic either Voltage sensing, or wired to the ignition/ECU, or on a timer, etc

Re: Power supply

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:41 pm
by Demport
Routemaster1 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:14 pm
Demport wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:56 pm
Patr wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:36 pm I have the latest Edition. It has 2 x USB C sockets under the sliding wifi charge/12v socket tray in front of the gear selector, 12v socket in the rear passenger console and 12v socket in the boot. The 12v sockets are live so no fridge in the boot!

I also have a USB C socket in the rear view mirror housing which I use for my rearview mirror dashcam and GPS module..
Things must have moved on from my MY19 Edition.
I've had a fridge connected in the boot since new, 22 months ago.
No problem with the battery.
From what I gather, the 12V sockets used to be switched and are now permanently live. On my previous car where I had the issue with the fridge, the earlier cars were permanently live to the boot (can't remember whether the front one was) and on late cars the boot socket was switched. Even the front one is an issue as I run a dashcam, which will need to go in one of the (hopefully) 2 usb c sockets, so it switches off when the 'ignition' is off, and my phone for (possibly) Google Maps in the second one. I do tend to charge a camera and an Apeman camera, and I suspect that they will not be an issue in an unswitched socket. But a fridge is a big problem.
I don't suppose anyone has a fix for a fridge in the boot?
My MY21 Edition arrives next week and I'd like to continue using the fridge.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:12 pm
by Milfmog
I have seen people recommend a product that plugs in between the socket and the fridge (or whatever) that monitors battery voltage and switches the fridge off if the battery voltage drops to a critical level. Trouble is, I can't remember what it was called. Try asking at Briskoda or on the YetiOwnersClub forum, I am sure somebody will be able to help you.

Ian.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:51 pm
by Demport
Milfmog wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:12 pm I have seen people recommend a product that plugs in between the socket and the fridge (or whatever) that monitors battery voltage and switches the fridge off if the battery voltage drops to a critical level. Trouble is, I can't remember what it was called. Try asking at Briskoda or on the YetiOwnersClub forum, I am sure somebody will be able to help you.

Ian.
Thanks for help, Ian.
I'll report back if successful.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 pm
by Demport
Milfmog wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:12 pm I have seen people recommend a product that plugs in between the socket and the fridge (or whatever) that monitors battery voltage and switches the fridge off if the battery voltage drops to a critical level. Trouble is, I can't remember what it was called. Try asking at Briskoda or on the YetiOwnersClub forum, I am sure somebody will be able to help you.

Ian.
The product that Ian suggested appears to be a Dometic CoolPower M50U Battery Monitor for Universal 12v Applications.
I've ordered one so will give it a go.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:17 pm
by Milfmog
Demport wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 pm The product that Ian suggested appears to be a Dometic CoolPower M50U Battery Monitor for Universal 12v Applications.
I've ordered one so will give it a go.
Yes, that's the gizmo (or possibly a different branded alternative). The only thing that might be an issue is that the resting voltage of my Karoq battery is fairly low, typically only just above 12v and I don't know what the switch-off voltage of this device is. It may turn your cold box off sooner than necessary if it is set up for a typical lead-acid car battery rather than the AGM batteries used in cars with start-stop functionality. At least that will prevent it from draining your battery, even if it does not allow the cooling to go on as long as it might.

I will be interested to hear how you get on with it.


Ian.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:13 am
by Demport
Milfmog wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:17 pm
Demport wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 pm The product that Ian suggested appears to be a Dometic CoolPower M50U Battery Monitor for Universal 12v Applications.
I've ordered one so will give it a go.
Yes, that's the gizmo (or possibly a different branded alternative). The only thing that might be an issue is that the resting voltage of my Karoq battery is fairly low, typically only just above 12v and I don't know what the switch-off voltage of this device is. It may turn your cold box off sooner than necessary if it is set up for a typical lead-acid car battery rather than the AGM batteries used in cars with start-stop functionality. At least that will prevent it from draining your battery, even if it does not allow the cooling to go on as long as it might.

I will be interested to hear how you get on with it.


Ian.
The device works well. Used for a couple of long trips, with battery voltage meter installed for peace of mind.
Dometic claims a cut-off voltage of 11.6v and cut-in 12.8v.
No noticeable difference in cooler performance with previous Karoq - with ignition controlled 12v socket.
Just under £20 from Amazon.
Hope this helps others.

Re: Power supply

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:12 pm
by guinnessaddick
Recently changed the 12v socket in the back of the centre console to 2 x usb socket, really easy to do.
Ordered on line from Aliexpress.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002 ... 3592%21sea