Service schedule query

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Post by chrisaaaaa »

Picking up the car the dealer I was asking about any running in type issues, he said, no no checks till 10K, I was surprised by the short interval, so they said they could just switch it over to flexible servicing.

Now, on the mercedes I had, flexible servicing entailed buy special 'long life' oil (at exhorbitant cost), do Skoda do the same, and if so, do I now have a car that thinks it has 'special' oil when it only has 'standard' oil?

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Post by Routemaster1 »

10000 miles seems low. I would expect a minimum of 15000.
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Post by chrisaaaaa »

Well quite, but it seemed they had the idea that std was 10K or 12 months, I can see why garages would think that was a good idea.

The thought that some cars could leave the dealers and not be seen again for 2 years in itself is quite a worry, an early life inspection would make sense.

As a previous victim of a DSG gearbox, this one is likely to get extra oil changes.
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Post by Milfmog »

The 10K miles is actually an overestimate. The fixed interval servicing is at 15,000 Km or about 9,300 miles. Few manufacturers (if any) now do an early check on their cars; why would they when they tell us that modern vehicles do not need to be run in?

PCP companies apparently do not like cars on the flexible service interval and insist on the fixed servicing (I know that is true with Volkswagen Finance but some other companies might be different)


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Running In
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According to the owners manual:

New vehicle - Running in the engine

Driving style during the first 1500 km determines the quality of the engine run-in process.

▶ During the first 1000 km, rev the engine to max. 3/4 of the highest permissible engine speed and avoid using a trailer.
▶ Over the next 500 km, the engine speed can be slowly increased.

Depending on driving style and operating conditions, the engine consumes some oil, up to 0.5 l/1000 km. Consumption may be higher over the next 5000 km.

New brake pads

New brake pads do not provide the optimum braking effect during the first 200 km, they have to be worn in first. Therefore, drive very carefully.

New tyres

New tyres do not have optimum grip for the first 500 km. Therefore, drive very carefully.


The choice of flexible servicing or fixed service intervals depends on the type of driving you do.
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Generally, flexible servicing tends to suit higher mileage drivers, who are making long trips on motorways and driving over 15k miles a year; the car decides when it needs a service based on usage and oil quality, but could be up to every 19k miles and 18 months.

Fixed servicing is every year or ~10k miles, and suits lower mileage drivers who are making lots of short journeys and so potentially causing more engine wear.
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Post by kodiaq »

All Skoda dealers SHOULD be using premium grad synthetic engine oils. Such as Castrol Magnatec.
There is a sensor in the sump which, if on flexible servicing will tell you when it needs changing.
As an ex Shell Lubricants specialist, 10k miles without change, fills me with horror. BUT lubricants technology has improved somewhat since I retired.
Also I never keep a car either more than three years or out of warranty, so it doesn't concern me.
All modern cars are pre-run in and officially do not need running in, but you will ensure a longer living engine if you follow the advice above.
I don't know where CJJE got his information but we don't use Km in this country so I think it may be foreign and like so many things, are different in EU.
I have always said be very careful for 200 MILES for both tyres and brakes.
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kodiaq wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:19 pm I don't know where CJJE got his information but we don't use Km in this country so I think it may be foreign and like so many things, are different in EU.
I have always said be very careful for 200 MILES for both tyres and brakes.
As I said Kodiaq, it was from my (English Language) Skoda Karoq owners manual! Page 18 of my downloaded copy (issue 07.2020) has a section "New Vehicle or new parts" which reads as shown in my post, with all distances in km. For that matter, the "Technical Data and Specifications" section at the rear gives the maximum speed for each engine in km/h too, and the acceleration from 0-100km/h!

I don't know if the abbreviated paper copy I got with the car is any different, as I've discarded it after finding that it didn't include any instructions or guidance for using the infotainment systems :)

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Chris,
I think since that is a downloaded version, you might find that s a translation of a Czech owners manual. If it was an English version we would not expect Km (in spite of the bloody BBC insisting on using EuU measurements! :lol: )
Skoda may well have changed the accepted norm for running in, including tyres and brakes.
None of the new cars I have owned in the past 10 years has suggested a running in period.
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Post by CJJE »

An interesting suggestion... but I've just found the paper copy of the manual supplied with my car (version 07.2020) and page 18 in it is identical to the downloaded version with running in instructions and measurements in km!

Chris
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Post by chrisaaaaa »

So no 'long life' oil for Skoda services then?
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